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NOTES:-- Presence of Strangers in the House of Commons 17 The Agapemone, by Richard Greene 17 London Irish Registers, by Robert Cole 18 Folk Lore--Divination by Bible and Key--Charm for Warts--Boy or Girl 19 QUERIES:-- Poet Laureates 20 Minor Queries:--Wood Paper--Latin Line--New Edition of Milton--Barum and Sarum--Roman Roads--John Dutton, of Dutton--Rome--Prolocutor of Convocation--Language of Queen Mary's Days--Vault Interments--Archbishop Williams' Persecutor, R.K.--The Sun feminine in English--Construe and translate--Men but Children of a Larger Growth--Clerical Costume--Ergh, Er, or Argh--Burial Service--Gaol Chaplains--Hanging out the Broom--George Lord Goring--Bands 21 REPLIES:-- Derivation of "News" and "Noise" by Samuel Hickson 23 The Dodo Queries, by H.E. Strickland 24 Bohn's Edition of Milton 24 Umbrellas 25 Emancipation of the Jews 25 Replies to Minor Queries:--Wellington, Wyrwast and Cokam--Sir William Skipwyth--Dr. Johnson and Dr. Warton--Worm of Lambton--Shakspeare's Will--Josias Ibach Stada--The Temple or a Temple--Bawn--"Heigh ho! says Rowley"--Arabic Numerals--Pusan--"I'd preach as though"--"Fools rush in"--Allusion in Friar Brackley's Sermon--Earwig--Sir R. Haigh's Letter-book--Marescautia--Memoirs of an American Lady--Poem by Sir E. Dyer, &c. 26 MISCELLANIES:-- Blue Boar Inn, Holborn--Lady Morgan and Curry--Sir Walter Scott and Erasmus--Parallel Passages--Grays Ode--The Grand Style--Hoppesteris--Sheridan's last Residence 30 MISCELLANEOUS:-- Notes on Books, Catalogues, Sales, &c. 31 Notices to Correspondents 31 Advertisements 32

NOTES.

PRESENCE OF STRANGERS IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.

In the late debate on Mr. Grantley Berkeley's motion for a fixed duty on corn, Sir Benjamin Hall is reported to have imagined the presence of a stranger to witness the debate, and to have said that he was imagining what every one knew the rules of the House rendered an impossibility. It is strange that so intelligent a member of the House of Commons should be ignorant of the fact that the old sessional orders, which absolutely prohibited the presence of strangers in the House of Commons, were abandoned in 1845, and that a standing order now exists in their place which recognises and regulates their presence. The insertion of this "note" may prevent many "queries" in after times, when the sayings and doings of 1850 have become matters of antiquarian discussion.

The following standing orders were made by the House of Commons on the 5th of February, 1845, on the motion of Mr. Christie, , and superseded the old sessional orders, which purported to exclude strangers entirely from the House of Commons:--

"That the serjeant at arms attending this House do from time to time take into his custody any stranger whom he may see, or who may be reported to him to be, in any part of the House or gallery appropriated to the members of this House; and also any stranger who, having been admitted into any other part of the House or gallery, shall misconduct himself, or shall not withdraw when strangers are directed to withdraw while the House, or any committee of the whole House, is sitting; and that no person so taken into custody be discharged out of custody without the special order of the House.

"That no member of this House do presume to bring any stranger into any part of the House or gallery appropriated to the members of this House while the House, or a committee of the whole House, is sitting."

Now, therefore, strangers are only liable to be taken into custody if in a part of the House appropriated to members, or misconducting themselves, or refusing to withdraw when ordered by the Speaker to do so; and Sir Benjamin Hall imagined no impossibility.

CH.

THE AGAPEMONE.

Like most other things, the "Agapemone" wickedness, which has recently disgusted all decent people, does not appear to be a new thing by any means. The religion-mongers of the nineteenth century have a precedent nearly 300 years old for this house of evil repute.

In the reign of Elizabeth, the following proclamation was issued against "The Sectaries of the Family of Love:"--

"And considering also it is found, that these Sectaries hold opinion, that they may before any magistrate, ecclesiastical or temporal, or any other person not being professed to be of their sect , by oath or otherwise deny any thing for their advantage, so as though many of them are well known to be teachers and spreaders abroad of these dangerous and damnable sects, yet by their own confession they cannot be condemned, whereby they are more dangerous in any Christian Realm: Therefore, her Majesty being very sorry to see so great an evil by the malice of the Devil, first begun and practised in other countries, to be now brought into this her Realm, and that by her Bishops and Ordinaries she understandeth it very requisite, not only to have these dangerous Heretics and Sectaries to be severely punished, but that also all other means be used by her Majesty's Royal authority, which is given her of God to defend Christ's Church, to root them out from further infecting her Realm, she hath thought meet and convenient, and so by this her Proclamation she willeth and commandeth, that all her Officers and Ministers temporal shall, in all their several vocations, assist the Archbishops and Bishops of her Realm, and all other persons ecclesiastical, having care of souls, to search out all persons duly suspected to be either teachers or professors of the foresaid damnable sects, and by all good means to proceed severely against them being found culpable, by order of the Laws either ecclesiastical or temporal: and that, also, search be made in all places suspected, for the books and writings maintaining the said Heresies and Sects, and them to destroy and burn.

"And wheresoever such Books shall be found after the publication hereof, in custody of any person, other than such as the Ordinaries shall permit, to the intent to peruse the same for confutation thereof, the same persons to be attached and committed to close prison, there to remain, or otherwise by Law to be condemned, until the same shall be purged and cleared of the same heresies, or shall recant the same, and be thought meet by the Ordinary of the place to be delivered. And that whoever in this Realm shall either print, or bring, or cause to be brought into this Realm, any of the said Books, the same persons to be attached and committed to prison, and to receive such bodily punishment and other mulct as fautors of damnable heresies. And to the execution hereof, her Majesty chargeth all her Officers and Ministers, both ecclesiastical and temporal, to have special regard, as they will answer not only afore God, whose glory and truth is by these damnable Sects greatly sought to be defaced, but also will avoid her Majesty's indignation, which in such cases as these are, they ought not to escape, if they shall be found negligent and careless in the execution of their authorities.

"Given at our Mannour of Richmond, the third of October, in the two-and-twentieth year of our Reign.

"God Save The Queen."

RICHARD GREENE.

Lichfield, May 28. 1850.

LONDON PARISH REGISTERS.

ROB. COLE.

FOLK LORE.

"En rentrant dans le salon, je trouvai Mistriss B. assise sur son divan, pr?s d'un natif Syrien Chr?tien. Ils tenaient ? eux deux une Bible, suspendue ? une grosse cl? par un mouchoir fin. Mistriss B. ne se rappelait pas avoir re?u un bijou qu'un Aleppin affirmait lui avoir remis. Le Syrien disait une pri?re, puis pronon?ait alternativement les noms de la dame et de l'Aleppin. La Bible pivota au nom de la dame d?clar?e par-l? en erreur. Elle se leva ? l'instant, et ayant fait des recherches plus exactes, finit par trouver le bijou."

I hardly think that this would be an English superstition transplanted to the East; it is more probable that it was originally derived frown Syria.

E.C.

Newcastle-on-Tyne, May 19. 1850.

Is this practice prevalent in England?

EMDEE.

M.E.F.

QUERIES.

POET LAUREATES.

Warton gives no further information, and is the author generally quoted; but the particular matter sought for is wanting.

Prior to this, the emoluments appear uncertain, as will be seen by Gifford's statement relative to the amount paid to B. Jonson, vol. i. cxi.:--

"Hitherto the Laureateship appears to have been a mere trifle, adopted at pleasure by those who were employed to write for the court, but conveying no privileges, and establishing no claim to a salary."

These emoluments, rights, and privileges have been matters of Laureate dispute, even to the days of Southey. In volume iv. of his correspondence, many hints of this will be found; e.g., at page 310., with reference to Gifford's statement, and "my proper rights."

I am afraid, however, the Abb? drew upon his imagination for the amount of the salary; and that he would find the people were never so hostile to the court as to sanction so heavy an infliction upon the royal family, as they would have met with from the quit-rent ode, the peppercorn of praise paid by Elkanah Settle, Cibber, or H.J. Pye.

--a metamorphose greater, I suspect, than any to be found in Ovid, and a transmigration of soul far beyond those imagined by the philosophers of the East.

S.H.

Athenaeum.

MINOR QUERIES.

"Exiguum hoc magni pignus amoris habe,"

which was engraved on a present from a distinguished person to a relation of mine, who tried in several quarters to learn where it came from.

C.B.

CH.

S.S.S.

BURIENSIS.

If I remember rightly, the border to the plan was composed of the Pianta Capitolina, or fragments of the ancient plan preserved in the Capitol. In the event of the map above referred to not being accessible, can I obtain a copy of this latter plan by itself, and how?

A.B.M.

A learned author has suggested, that the difference arose from the slow progress in social improvement in the North of England, caused by the difficulty of communication with the court and its refinements. I am still anxious to ascertain what the difference was.

FRA. MEWBURN.

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